Big Tauriel Discussion: Thranduil Branch
Peter Jackson's Hobbit movies have their problems, just as his The Lord of that she was “ruining” the relationships of Aragorn with other characters. specifically in the scene between Thranduil and Tauriel in Dale, in the. Thranduil objects to the relationship between Legolas and Tauriel until I don't even think you have a real issue with her being a serving elf. Thranduil has many servants, who (we are told in The Hobbit) are not allowed to condition on them before they could receive his permission for the marriage. problem of her being Peter Jackson's invention, Tauriel was of a lower class.
I have seen an interesting image going around the internet Tumblr specifically.
There are three stills of the scene described above. The first two are of Tauriel explaining how she hurts and asking, why does it hurt so much?
Because It Was Real: The Hobbit films and Fandom’s Problematic Speech
And the third image, Thranduil sports the text: And things get worse from there, with fans seething about the scene and nattering in sarcastic tones: I have to wonder, if Tauriel had been male, would the reaction have been different? Because they were canon, and their friendship was canon? A little of both? It is a question worth considering, and worth considering closely. Yes, Tauriel is a fictional character, but these arguments are being leveled by people who would never say the same to people they know.
I have been hearing and reading a lot of the same misogynistic speech and discourse regarding Tauriel that I heard about Arwen long ago.
- Tauriel the “Lowly Silvan Elf”
And the accusations leveled against Tauriel take on a decided racial cast, because she is an Elf, and Kili a Dwarf, and she is therefore engaging in some kind of Middle-Earth miscegenation. However, this was dropped or not mentioned during the whole run of the LOTR trilogy.
In the books, Gandalf sent Aragon to track down Gollum and hand him over to the elves of Thranduil. Aragon eventually found him and Mirkwood was given the responsibility to watch over Gollum; however, he escaped and it is for that reason Legolas was sent to Rivendell by Thranduil himself. This could perfectly explain how Aragon could have previously met Legolas, who was probably one of the elves who watched over Gollum.
But this is not mentioned within Fellowship of the Ring, and thus, Jackson had to create a new reason for how Legolas knew of Aragon's identity as the rightful king of Gondor. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring by J. Tolkien Pages " All sat silent for a while, until at length, Boromir spoke.
Small, but great in mischief. What became of him? To what doom did you put him? There is no doubt that he was tormented, and the fear of Sauron lies black on his heart. Still, I for one am glad that he is safely kept by the watchful Elves of Mirkwood.
His malice is great and gives him strength hardly to be believed in one so lean and withered. He could work much mischief still, if he were free. And I do not doubt that he was allowed to leave Mordor on some evil errand. They are not good, but only here have I learned how evil they may seem to this company. Smeagol, who is now called Gollum, has escaped.
#sorry i'm not sorry about my elf problem
We shall all rue it bitterly, I fear. How came the folk of Thranduil to fail in their trust? And we fear that the prisoner had aid from others, and that more is known of our doings than we could wish.arwen, elrond, galadriel, haldir, legolas, tauriel, thranduil - seven devils (HD)
First of all, I'm not against adding an original, major female character to The Hobbit. The book has pretty much no women in it, which would be conspicuous in a modern-day film, and since many characters from the book were totally re-envisioned in the movies anyway, creating a whole new character alongside them doesn't feel like that much of a crime.
When you get down to it, the biggest difference between Tauriel and the film versions of the dwarves, Radagast, and Azog is that Tauriel was given her name by the screenwriters instead of by Tolkien.
I never took issue with her, just with her and Kili's romance. Looking back on that subplot now, I'm willing to consider that it's more complex than I first gave it credit for. While their relationship is technically a romance, it's a romance that never really gets off the ground. The whole thing is just about Kili trying to convince Tauriel to give him a chance while she keeps trying to deny that she feels anything for him.
It's largely one-sided, they don't exchange sappy love dialogue, and they don't even kiss until after it's too late for them to be together. I think the reason I cringed at their relationship the first time I saw The Desolation of Smaug was because I was so bugged at the film for including it at all that I blew it out of proportion. The only changes I made to the scenes were some adjustments to the dialogue so it would better suit the replacement characters.
Some of the other dwarves filled Kili's shoes better than others, but one that I actually found those scenes working really well with was Ori.